meaning of "έν δε φαει και ὅλεσσου"?

  • ioanell

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    Greek
    What does it mean? "έν δε φαει και ὅλεσσου"
    (Phrase from "The abolition of man" by C.S. Lewis.)

    "ἐν δὲ φάει καὶ ὄλεσσον" [ἐπεί νύ τοι εὔαδεν οὕτως.] Homer's Iliad, P 647
    translated "let us fall (i.e. slain by the Trojans) at any rate by daylight" [if this pleases you]. / "let us be killed (i.e. slain by the Trojans) in the daylight" [if this pleases you]. A hemistich of Ajax's supplication to Zeus.
     
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    Arthur Lebedeff

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    Russian
    "ἐν δὲ φάει καὶ ὄλεσσον" [ἐπεί νύ τοι εὔαδεν οὕτως.] Homer's Iliad, P 647
    translated "let us fall (i.e. slain by the Trojans) at any rate by daylight" [if this pleases you]. / "let us be killed (i.e. slain by the Trojans) in the daylight" [if this pleases you]. A hemistich of Ajax's supplication to Zeus.
    Thank you very much!
     

    Scholiast

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    "ἐν δὲ φάει καὶ ὄλεσσον" [ἐπεί νύ τοι εὔαδεν οὕτως.] Homer's Iliad, P 647
    translated "let us fall (i.e. slain by the Trojans) at any rate by daylight" [if this pleases you].
    Quite right, but I would just add by way of amplification: there is an implicit conditional here: "If we are to die, at least may it be by daylight...".

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