Some of the moderators would also ask forer@s to bear in mind that WRF is not an audio forum. WRF is a supplement to the WR dictionary. Threads are meant to be "timeless" so that they can help currently unknown users in the future. Threads that ask "please click on the video I uploaded and evaluate my pronunciation" are of extremely limited usefulness to other people. In addition, such links often expire after several days or weeks, leaving behind a virtually worthless thread. We do recognize the importance of listening and speaking for learners of languages. That does not mean that WRF is the proper venue for honing those skills.
OK, yes, there might be a problem if a video gets deleted by YT or the owner. Yet, I guess one could, for example, explain their enquiry deeply and add that they came across it in a video called ..... (and provides the title and the time) instead of providing the link. Just like we provide titles of books in threads One day I provided just the title of a video and my post was edited and the link got deleted.It's partly to do with copyright, but it's also to deter the type of question which asks "What does he/she say at point x:xx in the video: I can't hear/understand it" These are almost always unanswerable without watching it, and thus violate the principle that in the language forums the question should, as far as is reasonably practicable, be answerable from the information given in the post.
There is also the problem that because of copyright restrictions, video clips on some sites are sometimes not accessible in certain countries (I think the way that works is that they block the IP you're using - but don't quote me on that ).
And finally there is the problem that YouTube in particular is notorious for removing videos at no notice either because of alleged copyright infringement or because the person who uploaded it has taken it down. Either way, it usually renders the question impossible to subsequently answer, and thus the thread is then virtually useless from the point of view of building up an archived database of information.
It depends on how you've framed the question.OK, yes, there might be a problem if a video gets deleted by YT or the owner. Yet, I guess one could, for example, explain their enquiry deeply and add that they came across it in a video called ..... (and provides the title and the time) instead of providing the link. Just like we provide titles of books in threads. One day I provided just the title of a video and my post was edited and the link got deleted.
So I would recommend allowing users to provide titles of YT videos, with the condition that the exact time when a given phrase was used is provided.
Exactly, but this needs to be clear in the forum rules. As I said, knowing there might be no YT links, I once provided just the title and it got deleted with the moderator note saying I broke the forum rules.I can't off the top of my head think of a reason why there should be any great objection to giving the title of the video and nothing else as your source, in the same way that you would cite the title of a book, a song or a poem.
I would have said that was covered by Rule 4, too:I meant it needed to be clear that video titles may be inserted, so that no moderator edits my post and accuses me of breaching the forum rules.